let's wait until people get oldest and sickest and the way we'll fix the budget is, the deficit, is when they get oldest and sickest we're going to take away their benefits. that is totally insane. >> right. >> you're talking about something like for instance raising the eligibility age. >> raising the eligibility age. >> how does the table feel about raising the eligibility age? >> no, no. >> the republicans want us to talk about the budget, the debt ceiling as if that is the only issue out there. i mean the real biggest issue in my opinion is jobs in the economy. >> yes. >> we still have to do everything we can. once we get the economy back you'll have revenue coming in and take care of a lot of the long-term shortfalls in different areas but i personally support the proposal to get rid of the debt ceiling requirement. >> yes. >> i think it is absolutely ridiculous we still have this. >> right. >> this stupid debate that they want to do three months at a time because they want to fight every three months. >> we should note dick gephardt when he was running, speaker in the past, had cre